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16 Sep 2026 [Jarek Potiuk / Greg Stein]

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19 Aug 2026 [Jarek Potiuk / Justin Mclean]

## Description:
Apache Magpie is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to agent-assisted repository maintainership and development —
including issue and pull-request triage, contributor mentoring, agent-drafted
remediation, developer-side development-cycle skills, and narrowly-scoped
fix-and-merge automation. Magpie is deliberately governance-agnostic: it is
built to be adopted by ASF projects and by non-ASF open-source projects alike,
with no ASF-only assumption baked into the install path.

## Project Status:

- First committer votes succeded — three candidates, our first since
 establishment. These are committer votes only; whether committers should
 automatically join the PMC remains an open question the PMC is discussing
 separately. We are proceeding with inviting and formalising it.

- PMC/Committers: 22 members. Chair: Jarek Potiuk. No additions or removals in
 the period.

- Apache Magpie 0.1.0 — 2026-07-18. Our first release.
 - Cut via a hybrid path: the Apache Trusted Releases (ATR) platform with the
   traditional manual process as fallback. We used the fallback when ATR hit
   blocking issues, and fed that experience back to the ASF Tooling team.
 - Two release candidates were needed; rc1 was withdrawn after review
   feedback. We consider that the process working rather than a problem.
 - The release was itself driven by Magpie's own release skills — dogfooding
   that surfaced real defects we have since fixed.

No new issues. As noted last month, the PMC is exploring relationships with
other open-source organisations. These remain exploratory discussions only;
nothing formal will be done without first engaging VP Marketing & Publicity.
The initial discussions had shown that while there is interest - the
installation approach for Python Software Foundation use and other non-ASF
projects might be a blocker. Eclipse is more interested in having Enclave
embedded as part of the sandboxing. Both approaches are in the discussion
phase.

Thanks for clarifying our question from last month.

## Membership Data:
Apache Magpie was founded 2026-06-17 (2 months ago) There are currently 22
committers and 22 PMC members in this project. The Committer-to-PMC ratio is
1:1.

Community changes, past quarter:
- No new PMC members (project became TLP recently).
- Three new commmitters are already accepted, formalising the process was a
 little impaired due to PMC chair attending Community Over Code Asia.

## Project Activity:
Ongoing, medium activity. The project has shipped its first Apache release and
is now moving from bootstrapping into normal operation.

Discussion at Community Over Code Asia - where three PMC members (Jarek, Craig
and Justin) were speaking had shown that Magpie addresses the very problems
many of the PMCs in Asia are also struggling with. Magpie was mentioned
multiple times at Keynotes and other talks (alongside RAI initiative as well).
The discussions (also earlier ones) allowed to identify two main bottlenecks
for adoption:

* Installation process
* Too many interruptions due to security / permissions

Luckily those are common industry problems and industry is converging on
solutions: Marketplace and Plugin standards have just been released by Open AI
and Anthropic, and permission models for CLI is changing to "auto-approve by
default". We are going to leverage both in the next version - while we are
going to build addional security layer, which will maintain current security
level while avoiding too frequent interruptions.

- 162 pull requests merged in the period, across roughly 37 contributors.
- Governance tightened. Approval-before-merge is now enforced by branch
 protection; the project no longer self-merges without review. This was a
 deliberate slowdown following the release.
- 0.2.0 focus is adoption friction.
- Trusted external skill sources (RFC-AI-0006) landed, allowing skills to be
 pulled from trusted external repositories — the mechanism the PSF
 conversation depends on.
- Vendor neutrality remains automatically measured and published at 100%
 across capability contracts, skills, and agent harnesses:
 https://magpie.apache.org/#vendor-neutrality
- Framework now at 70 skills and 45 tools.
- A read-only repo-health audit family shipped: Actions workflow security,
 dependency vulnerabilities, licence and NOTICE compliance, and flaky-test
 patterns. These skills observe and report only; they make no changes,
 consistent with the project's human-in-the-loop discipline.


## Community Health:

Healthy and broadening, with some caveats.

Contribution is still concentrated: Jarek and Justin account for a large share
of commits. But the tail has grown — several contributors now show sustained,
substantive activity, and the three committer votes now running are the first
step in converting that into shared responsibility. Enforcing
review-before-merge was the other half of that deliberately, since it forces
work through more than one pair of hands.

Interest continues from outside the ASF, including a contributor with
professional AI-security and privacy background who approached the list
directly.

The Chair was presenting a Magpie talk and the security keynote at Community
Over Code Asia, We are also discussing an ASF blog post intended to carry
perspectives from adopters rather than only from the PMC. Further events that
are coming where we can get further feedback are Airflow Summit and Community
Over Code Glasgow.

Ongoing community discussion: ASF Slack requires guest invites for non-ASF
participants, which conflicts with our goal of being open to adopters outside
the foundation. The PMC is deciding between Matrix and Discord for an open
channel.

Onboarding investment has improved. An 11-lesson AI tutor curriculum now ships
in the repository, giving new contributors and adopting maintainers a
structured path into the framework.

Also for the upcoming release (0.2.0) we are reviewing all the SKILLs, docs
onboarding docs for consistency. While Agentic driven development is great to
move fast, it also breaks some consistency, miscount things and hallucinates
sometimes, we are not only fixing the inconsistencies but adding harnesses to
avoid those in the future.

A sustained good first issue programme has raised around 60 curated newcomer
issues, with 45 closed and roughly 25 distinct external contributors, with
several now repeat contributors.

15 Jul 2026 [Jarek Potiuk / Christopher Schultz]

## Description:

Apache Magpie is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
related to agent-assisted repository maintainership and development —
including issue and pull-request triage, contributor mentoring, agent-drafted
remediation, developer-side development-cycle skills, and narrowly-scoped
fix-and-merge automation. Magpie is deliberately governance-agnostic: it is
built to be adopted by ASF projects and by non-ASF open-source projects alike,
with no ASF-only assumption baked into the install path.

## Project Status:

### Status:

New Top-Level Project, established directly by Board resolution (not via the
Incubator). Status: ongoing, high activity — in the bootstrapping phase. The
project is standing up its infrastructure and framework, onboarding its
founding PMC, and preparing its first Apache release. No issues require Board
attention at this time.

* Established: 2026-06-17 (name confirmed via PODLINGSEARCH during the 8–12
  May 2026 naming discussion).
* PMC: 22 members at establishment.
* Chair: Jarek Potiuk.
* No committers or PMC members have been added or removed since establishment
  (project is newly formed).
* Diversity: the founding PMC spans a broad set of ASF projects (Airflow,
  Arrow, Iceberg, Polaris, Groovy, Grails, Superset, Beam, Pulsar,
  Log4j/Logging Services, Mahout, Doris, Geode, Accumulo, HBase, Lucene/Solr,
  Tomcat, ComDev, Incubator, Security, Training) and multiple organisational
  affiliations, with no single employer holding a majority — a deliberate
  design goal given the contributor-data surface the project touches.
* There are first new adopters discussing Magpie Adoption (Apache JMeter in
  the ASF, but also we have a discussion with Eclipse Foundation Leadership
  and we have active discussions with Python Software Foundation - and in the
  week of 13-19 of July at Europython we are planning to work with release
  managers and triagers of Python to help them to adopt Magpie and possibly
  expose their SKILLs via trusted 3rd-party mechanism of Magpie.

### Issues for the board:

The announcement of Apache Magpie triggered immediate adoption interest
aligning perfectly with our core mission. This momentum extends well beyond
the ASF; we are seeing active usage and contributions from independent
maintainers, alongside formal interest from both the Python Software
Foundation and the Eclipse Foundation.

This "grass-roots" pull comes from maintainers seeking to reclaim their time
through Magpie's automation. While this outreach intersects with broader
initiatives like RAI, the PMC views this as project-specific work addressing
universal OSS maintainership challenges. We intend to continue these
cross-organizational collaborations—engaging Marketing & Publicity should they
evolve into formal public partnerships—to ensure Magpie remains a
governance-agnostic solution for the entire ecosystem.

Question to the board:

Does the Board have any objections to the PMC pursuing these relationships
with other open-source organizations, or do you have any other expectations or
constraints regarding them?

### Releases

* No releases yet. The project has made no Apache release to date
* The first release, Apache Magpie 0.1.0, is being run
  https://lists.apache.org/thread/4cxf84q5vwxd85dj5yx6vhj2bzr46111.
* Magpie intended to cut its releases through the Apache Trusted Releases
  (ATR) platform (ASF Tooling) with traditional manual release process as
  fallback - dogfooding its own release process, which turned out to be good
  idea as we could fallback to manual process when ATR hit some
  un-workaroundable issues.
* Releasing Magpie using release SKILS in Magpie is a fantastic way to
  dog-food what we are doing and shows the true value of Magpie - the whole
  release process was generally following “release Magpie” Agentic command -
  with conversational interface guiding release manager - including automated
  installation of dependencies, generating keys etc. It was as easy as
  following the instructions of the agent.


## Membership Data:
Apache Magpie was founded 2026-06-17 (22 days ago)
There are currently 22 committers and 22 PMC members in this project.
The Committer-to-PMC ratio is 1:1.

Community changes, past quarter:
- No new PMC members (project graduated recently).
- No new committers were added.

## Project Activity:

Since establishment the project has focused on infrastructure and framework
build-out:
 * Repository and framework. github.com/apache/magpie is stood up with the
   skills framework, contributor documentation, and CI. The framework ships as
   reusable "skills" a project adopts via a snapshot-based adoption mechanism,
   with per-adopter and per-user configuration layers and a strict
   human-in-the-loop state-change discipline (the agent drafts; the human
   acts).
* Magpie Website reflecting Maintainer focus and agreed Taxonomy Targeted to
  maintainers who are main audience for Magpie has been published - promotion
  of the “Give maintainers time back” theme is happening in various media to
  attract contributors: https://magpie.apache.org/
* Skill families in place across the project's agentic modes: security-issue
  handling (intake → triage → CVE allocation → fix → disclosure), release
  management (full lifecycle, both svnpubsub and ATR backends), PR management
  (triage, review, quick-merge, stats), issue management (triage,
  deduplication, reproduction, stale sweeps), contributor/committer
  (nomination, activity, onboarding), and audit (CI-runner, dependency,
  license-compliance, flaky-test).
* Pilots. Onboarding friendly pilot projects — an ASF PMC running the full
  security-issue flow (Apache Airflow, Apache Groovy, Apache Burr, Apache
  JMeter)
* Trusted-release collaboration. Working with the ASF Tooling team on the ATR
  platform, adopting it for Magpie's own first release as an early real-world
  test.
* Vendor neutrality - discussions started on vendor neutrality of the project
  being aspirational vs. achieved - this resulted in implementing components
  and defining contracts that allow Magpie to claim Vendor neutrality status.
  Vendor neutrality is automatically assessed at
  https://magpie.apache.org/#vendor-neutrality The current state: 10/10
  Capability contracts 100% work across 2+ vendors 69/69 Skills carry no
  vendor lock-in 22/22 Agent harness 100% harness-neutral
* Organization agnosticism - discussions started with Python Software
  Foundation and Eclipse Foundation on a way for Magpie to become a way to
  also distribute other organization skills via trusted skills
  https://magpie.apache.org/#organisation-agnostic

## Community Health:

Healthy for a project at this stage. Development activity is high (framework
and skill build-out proceeding steadily); the PMC is engaged and drawn from
experienced ASF contributors with a bias toward developer-experience and
community-development work.

Mailing lists (dev@, private@, commits@) and GitHub Issues are active for
coordination. The immediate community-building priorities are landing the
first release, converting pilot usage into external adopters, and beginning to
grow committership beyond the founding grant.

We have a great deal of contributions - mainly from involved founding team
members. Jarek Potiuk, Justin McLean - who both happen to have more time to
dedicate for Magpie - are most active contributors. However we make an effort
to get more feedback from other founding team members in the decision making
process and project daily operations - we also have founding team members
contributing and new, individual contributors who contribute occasionally.

We have active discussion on Slack #magpie channel created on ASF slack, and
we are discussing about adding extra channels (Discord) for ad-hoc discussions
and ASF slack adds friction in adding non-ASF community members - that have to
be personally invited and approved as guests, we want to make sure we are as
open as inclusive as possible to all kinds of organizations and individuals -
in- and out- of ASF.

The “Mischief Makers” is a term we seem to be coining to name community
members - which seems a pretty natural choice.

Thanks to Agentic assistance it progresses very fast - we have now 10
contracts, 5 substrates, 69 skills, 45 tools, 9 skill families that are ready
to serve Maintainers all-around globe.

@Justin Mclean: follow up on clarification on chair/project authorizations

17 Jun 2026

Establish the Apache Magpie Project

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
 public, related to creation and maintenance of software related
 to agent-assisted repository maintainership and development,
 including issue and pull- request triage, contributor
 mentoring, agent-drafted remediation, developer-side
 development-cycle skills, and narrowly-scoped fix-and- merge
 automation.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Magpie Project", be
 and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation;
 and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Magpie Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creation and maintenance of software related to
 agent-assisted repository maintainership and development,
 including issue and pull- request triage, contributor
 mentoring, agent-drafted remediation, developer-side
 development-cycle skills, and narrowly-scoped fix-and- merge
 automation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Magpie" be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve
 at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
 Apache Magpie Project, and to have primary responsibility for
 management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
 of the Apache Magpie Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Magpie Project:

   * Rich Bowen <rbowen@apache.org>
   * Zili Chen <tison@apache.org>
   * Amogh Desai <amoghdesai@apache.org>
   * Mike Drob <mdrob@apache.org>
   * James Fredley <jamesfredley@apache.org>
   * Elad Kalif <eladkal@apache.org>
   * Piotr Karwasz <pkarwasz@apache.org>
   * Paul King <paulk@apache.org>
   * Calvin Kirs <kirs@apache.org>
   * Pavan Kumar <gopidesu@apache.org>
   * Rémy Maucherat <remm@apache.org>
   * Justin Mclean <jmclean@apache.org>
   * Ismaël Mejía <iemejia@apache.org>
   * Andrew Musselman <akm@apache.org>
   * Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbonofre@apache.org>
   * Jarek Potiuk <potiuk@apache.org>
   * Evan Rusackas <rusackas@apache.org>
   * Craig L Russell <clr@apache.org>
   * Russell Spitzer <russellspitzer@apache.org>
   * Coty Sutherland <csutherl@apache.org>
   * Matthew Topol <zeroshade@apache.org>
   * Richard Zowalla <rzo1@apache.org>

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jarek Potiuk be
 appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Magpie, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or
 until a successor is appointed.

 Special Order 7C, Establish the Apache Magpie Project, was
 approved by Unanimous Vote of the directors present.

20 May 2026

Establish the Apache Magpie Project

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the
 Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project
 Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source
 software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to creation and
 maintenance of software related to agent-assisted repository maintainership
 and development, including issue and pull- request triage, contributor
 mentoring, agent-drafted remediation, developer-side development-cycle skills,
 and narrowly-scoped fix-and- merge automation.

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to
 be known as the "Apache Magpie Project", be and hereby is established pursuant
 to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the Apache Magpie be and hereby is responsible for the creation
 and maintenance of software related to creation and maintenance of software
 related to agent-assisted repository maintainership and development, including
 issue and pull- request triage, contributor mentoring, agent-drafted
 remediation, developer-side development-cycle skills, and narrowly-scoped
 fix-and- merge automation; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Magpie" be and hereby is
 created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board
 of Directors as the chair of the Apache Magpie Project, and to have primary
 responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Magpie Project; and be it further

 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
 appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Magpie Project:

   * Andrew Musselman <akm@apache.org>
   * Amogh Desai <amoghdesai@apache.org>
   * Craig L Russell <clr@apache.org>
   * Elad Kalif <eladkal@apache.org>
   * Pavan Kumar <gopidesu@apache.org>
   * Ismaël Mejía <iemejia@apache.org>
   * James Fredley <jamesfredley@apache.org>
   * Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbonofre@apache.org>
   * Justin Mclean <jmclean@apache.org>
   * Calvin Kirs <kirs@apache.org>
   * Mike Drob <mdrob@apache.org>
   * Paul King <paulk@apache.org>
   * Piotr Karwasz <pkarwasz@apache.org>
   * Jarek Potiuk <potiuk@apache.org>
   * Rich Bowen <rbowen@apache.org>
   * Evan Rusackas <rusackas@apache.org>
   * Russell Spitzer <russellspitzer@apache.org>
   * Zili Chen <tison@apache.org>
   * Matthew Topol <zeroshade@apache.org>

 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jarek Potiuk be appointed to the
 office of Vice President, Apache Magpie, to serve in accordance with and
 subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed.

 Special Order 7A, Establish the Apache Magpie Project, was
 tabled.

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